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		By: cynthia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cynthia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 01:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.cynthianewberrymartin.com/2013/02/white-space-zooming-out-in-the-first-person/#comment-4053&quot;&gt;Jodi Paloni&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for reading, Jodi!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.cynthianewberrymartin.com/2013/02/white-space-zooming-out-in-the-first-person/#comment-4053">Jodi Paloni</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for reading, Jodi!</p>
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		By: Jodi Paloni		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jodi Paloni]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Mar 2013 19:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good to hear people&#039;s thoughts on those distracting marks. Of course, I use them on my manuscript when I come to the bottom of the page if a section should end there, but I always wondered if it would automatically deleted out when published. The answer: I guess some do and some don&#039;t.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to hear people&#8217;s thoughts on those distracting marks. Of course, I use them on my manuscript when I come to the bottom of the page if a section should end there, but I always wondered if it would automatically deleted out when published. The answer: I guess some do and some don&#8217;t.</p>
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		By: cydmadsen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cydmadsen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 03:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.cynthianewberrymartin.com/2013/02/white-space-zooming-out-in-the-first-person/#comment-4051&quot;&gt;cynthia&lt;/a&gt;.

LOL  So much re-inventing of the wheel that needs to be done.  It is frustrating, but out of that frustration (I hope) a new burst of creativity is defined.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.cynthianewberrymartin.com/2013/02/white-space-zooming-out-in-the-first-person/#comment-4051">cynthia</a>.</p>
<p>LOL  So much re-inventing of the wheel that needs to be done.  It is frustrating, but out of that frustration (I hope) a new burst of creativity is defined.  </p>
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		By: cynthia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cynthia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 16:11:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.cynthianewberrymartin.com/2013/02/white-space-zooming-out-in-the-first-person/#comment-4048&quot;&gt;cydmadsen&lt;/a&gt;.

Cyd, yes, my agent reads my manuscripts on an e-reader (and sends them to editors who often read on e-readers) so one thing I&#039;ve already had to deal with is the practice of including a mark of some sort if a page break corresponds with a space break (white space). On an e-reader you don&#039;t have the same breaks. So if you format for the computer but read on an e-reader, you have marks to identify some white space and not others. It&#039;s maddening. I can see how white space in the world of e-reading could produce fury rather than peace. We will need more thought and discussion on this one... Of course one answer would be to mark each use of white space with three bullet points--but that perhaps defeats the point of white space--and we know it would drive Richard crazy...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.cynthianewberrymartin.com/2013/02/white-space-zooming-out-in-the-first-person/#comment-4048">cydmadsen</a>.</p>
<p>Cyd, yes, my agent reads my manuscripts on an e-reader (and sends them to editors who often read on e-readers) so one thing I&#8217;ve already had to deal with is the practice of including a mark of some sort if a page break corresponds with a space break (white space). On an e-reader you don&#8217;t have the same breaks. So if you format for the computer but read on an e-reader, you have marks to identify some white space and not others. It&#8217;s maddening. I can see how white space in the world of e-reading could produce fury rather than peace. We will need more thought and discussion on this one&#8230; Of course one answer would be to mark each use of white space with three bullet points&#8211;but that perhaps defeats the point of white space&#8211;and we know it would drive Richard crazy&#8230;</p>
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		By: cynthia		</title>
		<link>https://www.cynthianewberrymartin.com/2013/02/white-space-zooming-out-in-the-first-person/#comment-4050</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cynthia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 16:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.cynthianewberrymartin.com/2013/02/white-space-zooming-out-in-the-first-person/#comment-4045&quot;&gt;Richard Gilbert&lt;/a&gt;.

Richard, now I&#039;m noticing the philodendron leaves, bullets, chuffy pigs everywhere...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.cynthianewberrymartin.com/2013/02/white-space-zooming-out-in-the-first-person/#comment-4045">Richard Gilbert</a>.</p>
<p>Richard, now I&#8217;m noticing the philodendron leaves, bullets, chuffy pigs everywhere&#8230;</p>
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		By: cynthia		</title>
		<link>https://www.cynthianewberrymartin.com/2013/02/white-space-zooming-out-in-the-first-person/#comment-4049</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cynthia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 16:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.cynthianewberrymartin.com/2013/02/white-space-zooming-out-in-the-first-person/#comment-4042&quot;&gt;Sarah Laurence&lt;/a&gt;.

Me too, Sarah.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.cynthianewberrymartin.com/2013/02/white-space-zooming-out-in-the-first-person/#comment-4042">Sarah Laurence</a>.</p>
<p>Me too, Sarah.</p>
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		By: cydmadsen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2013 14:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.cynthianewberrymartin.com/2013/02/white-space-zooming-out-in-the-first-person/#comment-4046&quot;&gt;cynthia&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Cynthia.  Obviously, this is an excellent post because it&#039;s been haunting me.  As much as I love the use of white space as a resting place, would it translate into eBook publishing?  There are so many formatting errors in that field, both indie and trad, I wonder if the reader would boil with fury at what they perceive as bad formatting, rather than enjoy the resting place.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.cynthianewberrymartin.com/2013/02/white-space-zooming-out-in-the-first-person/#comment-4046">cynthia</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Cynthia.  Obviously, this is an excellent post because it&#8217;s been haunting me.  As much as I love the use of white space as a resting place, would it translate into eBook publishing?  There are so many formatting errors in that field, both indie and trad, I wonder if the reader would boil with fury at what they perceive as bad formatting, rather than enjoy the resting place.</p>
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		By: cynthia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cynthia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2013 14:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.cynthianewberrymartin.com/2013/02/white-space-zooming-out-in-the-first-person/#comment-4041&quot;&gt;Willow&lt;/a&gt;.

I hadn&#039;t either, Willow. And your mentioning negative space reminded me of Matisse who used the color white to add breathing room. It&#039;s all so interesting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.cynthianewberrymartin.com/2013/02/white-space-zooming-out-in-the-first-person/#comment-4041">Willow</a>.</p>
<p>I hadn&#8217;t either, Willow. And your mentioning negative space reminded me of Matisse who used the color white to add breathing room. It&#8217;s all so interesting.</p>
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		By: cynthia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cynthia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 20:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.cynthianewberrymartin.com/2013/02/white-space-zooming-out-in-the-first-person/#comment-4040&quot;&gt;cydmadsen&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, Cyd. All interesting. I haven&#039;t read Back to Blood, but I did think the white space in May We Be Forgiven worked in the interest of a smoother read.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.cynthianewberrymartin.com/2013/02/white-space-zooming-out-in-the-first-person/#comment-4040">cydmadsen</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks, Cyd. All interesting. I haven&#8217;t read Back to Blood, but I did think the white space in May We Be Forgiven worked in the interest of a smoother read.</p>
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		By: Richard Gilbert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Gilbert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2013 02:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I recently noted a white space break in the middle of a scene in the memoir The Glass Castle. Admittedly the scene broke there and there was the transition sentence &quot;On Saturday . . . &quot; before it resumed. But the word transition was enough. The white space was done for emphasis, I think. I see it used that way more in creative nonfiction than memoir, but I like it anywhere—readers can make the leap. A peeve of mine is dingbats in the white space: bullets, philodendron leaves, chuffy pigs—distracting, ugly, and unnecessary.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently noted a white space break in the middle of a scene in the memoir The Glass Castle. Admittedly the scene broke there and there was the transition sentence &#8220;On Saturday . . . &#8221; before it resumed. But the word transition was enough. The white space was done for emphasis, I think. I see it used that way more in creative nonfiction than memoir, but I like it anywhere—readers can make the leap. A peeve of mine is dingbats in the white space: bullets, philodendron leaves, chuffy pigs—distracting, ugly, and unnecessary.</p>
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